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Storied
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utter nonsense
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Love you , entertaining and fun . You are also gorgeous 😂❤❤❤❤
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I am Portuguese, there are several countries that speak Portuguese-based Creole in Africa and Asia such as Macau and Malacca, the difference between Portuguese and Creole languages is Portuguese is a complex language and Creole languages have more than 85% of their vocabulary derived from Portuguese. It's the same as renting a house, paying for it and using it, but it doesn't belong to you. And in Portugal, They do not recognize creole languages Of Portuguese origin Languages , But dialects, are in Africa, China or Indonesia
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Everyone's just trying to spoil their vassals. What a perfect AMOUNT of coverage on this. So we were right about adults being kind of scary and strict when we were younger. Are you ready to not have done anything wrong?
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This is what I understand when they say English is a creole language
We’re really talking about old English or Anglo-Saxon, which is a highly inflicted language where we didn’t have dependent prepositional phrases, but we actually had grammatical constructs where something could be said in different orders based on gender
What happened to the old English language or the Saxon language when the old Norse speakers from Scandinavia came and settled in East Anglia and parts of Eastern England is they couldn’t handle this inflicted language so they wound up, simplifying it and simplification to other generations on top of that, they substituted very critical vocabulary in their language, a whole Norse with the old English language down the road as the old English language turn into middle English And then middle English turned into modern English with the vowel shift, Modern English, very Scandinavian like what they call north Germanic language like that linguist use and is a substitute standard and Scandinavian countries or a lot of Scandinavian language speakers now use modern English to communicate with each other because it has so many basic vocabulary words and grammar that’s compatible with modern Scandinavian languages
This is what they mean when they say English is a creole language creole of an older form of the English Language ( Which is itself a different language from modern English) That was simplified by old Norse language speakers
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English as a western germanic language got a lot of words by the Norman gentry who spoke french.
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Most afrikaans linguists believe that afrikaans is not itself a creole, but a merging of cape dutch and a dutch creole of the cape malay.
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After learning a little Haitian creole for a trip back in 2012, I realized that it's a much better more phonetic version of French
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Dude, it seems like whenever I learn something new, I'm reminded of just how effed up colonialism has been and continues to be to actual living people.
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There are probably no teaching materials in Haitian Creole, so they have to use French teaching material. Haiti is a small, very poor country, with limited government. It is probably difficult to get anything printed there. You have to import all you need, and no one is needing a Haitian Creole textbook outside of Haiti.
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No it’s not.
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Haitian Creole is not THAT different from French. 90-95% of its words come only from French. We, along with Martinique and Guadeloupe, can and do speak both. The education system was good until the US occupation in 1915…
Also creoles have a different grammar than the dominant language. So the professor is wrong to compare Montréal Frennch (which keeps traditional French grammar) to Jamaican English Patois (creole) since the grammar is not the same in relation to the colonizing language. Next time do a longer video with more modern debates in linguistics and less of the guest's opining without context. Bilingual education is done for example in many creole speaking countries for example. -
This woman is not honest. We don't call african languages creole languages. We dont' call indian languages creole languages. What is the difference ? These language are old and had time to mature
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Is it? I watched the video and i still don't know becuase you didn't actually explain why or why not english would be a creolle language
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Wait, wait wait, I thought “Creole” was specific to The mix of language spoke in the specific region of the Caribbean and Southeastern USA, and the same concept is called something different in different parts of the world?
Which is why English isn’t Creole, although, by definition, it developed that way of being a mix of languages with the Royalty in England speaking French and the commoners speaking English, etc.
Also, there seemed to be a racial suggestion made, that the Creole languages aren’t considered “real”, because they’re spoke by people of color?
That’s ignorant, people need to stop having a victim mentality and seeing everything through the false duality of oppressor and oppressed.
Lots of White people in Louisiana, are speaking their Creole, & have the exact same issues and are being taught French or English in school and it’s becoming a problem, where they even believe they’re starting to loose the language, because kids are speaking it less and less, you should look into it? -
This video does not address it's thesis.
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Is there any language that is not a creole?
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Should have been more explicit about the role of race and colonialism in your analysis :/
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As someone who works with young children, children who can communicate in more than one language have an advantage over mono linguistic children .
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Belize Creole.
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lMO, English is not a Creole.
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I am disappointed by this video. I thought it was going to be an explanation in detail of how English works and how that lines up with the way Creole languages work. In the end you only just asserted your main point and the theme in the title and thumbnail.
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This feels like content for the sake of content rather than the concise well thought out videos we are used to from this channel.
Perhaps the concepts are too big for such a short video. better would have been a video on what a creole language is, posing the question at the end to be answered in the next video.
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Real title : what’s the difference between a Pidgin and a Creole.
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I definitely among those linguists who find english is a near-creole. Im also from Curacao and my dad is from the USA so american english is a native language for me.
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When DIFFERENT PROPEL OF DIFFERENT Languages, they create pigeons which turn into Creole> Those become recognized as languages. Then, when the people who speak those languages encounter people who speak other languages, they create pigeons, which turn into creoles, and so forth.
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English is just older by some centuries.
But in fact, it's constantly evolving, and 100 or 200 years ago was noticeably different.
Languages change and merge and are born and die all the time. -
Thanks
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Si yon moun panse pi byen, y'ap wè ke anpil lang ki gen nan monn nan gen yon orijin sanblab ak yon lang Kreyòl, fransè pa egzanp te gen orijin li nan laten
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S/O from the Cayman Islands. Mom didn’t want me speaking English Creole at all. Didn’t work. I speak it.
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My opinion before I watch, people that speak a creole can usually understand one of the other languages fluently. Like Jamaicans that speak patois can understand English and Haitians that speak creole can understand French.
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title is pretty misleading. this was mostly a 'creoles/patois are real languages' [they are!] and only touches the english creolization topic. and yes racism plays a big part in language classification
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I like this series but this episode is off the mark. PBS needs to leave their politics out of things and stop trying to make everything about race. This cherry picks data and tells falsehoods to make their point. For example, Canadian French isn't considered real French by the French, it's called Québécois. And Haitian créole is so different as to be almost its own language, while still maintaining enough to be a French derivative, that's what makes a creole. That's also the difference between say, Jamaican patois and the English of the US, UK, Australia, etc., despite our accents and local vernacular, we can all understand each other but we wouldn't understand two Jamaicans speaking to each other. And to show it's not about skin color, much of Africa speaks French, and despite the accents, it is considered for French, not creole, same for central and south America with Spanish and Portuguese.
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Wait a minute. Are you telling me that children who are taught in a language they can understand learn more than children taught in a language they don't speak? No, I don't believe it. Completely absurd.
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I enjoy your videos but I find the background music in this one to be unnecessary and distracting.
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This video just explains briefly what a creole is, and then asserts that English is one, with no explanation whatsoever as to why that might be the case. Then it postulates that perhaps the term creole shouldn't even exist, again with no explanation as to why it might not be a useful distinction. Disappointing. In my own view, creolization of languages does undoubtedly exist; it's just a matter of degree. Some languages are more creolized and others less. English absorbed words from other languages over centuries. Languages that are considered creoles are ones where two languages mixed together and simplified over a very short period of time. It's relative what is considered a short period of time, though, so I would say it's on a spectrum.
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0:55 this definition is wrong in a small but important way. Creole languages are when to language mix into a simplified pidgin (basically a very small basic language) before the pidgin expands into a new language. By her definition any language that has ever had any influence from another language can be defined as a creole. But with the correct definition Creoles are a subtype of language which share common features and patterns allowing us to be able to tell what language are creoles even 1000s of years later (an example being the Vedda language of Sri Lanka).
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At the end if your video you mention how new words are created to fill in the gaps. And earlier in the video your guest mentions Afrikaans (an "offshoot" of mainly Dutch).
Something I've found very interesting is how, in more recent decades, Dutch has landed up "updating" it's lexicon with more modern (or perhaps, "internationally recognised") versions of words, while Afrikaans has kept traditional words. Perhaps due to each language's proximal influence? An example is "psychology". Today, Dutch speakers say "psychologie", whereas in Afrikaans it's "sielkunde" (from Dutch "zielkunde", literally "soul arts/studies").
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I imagine all languages are great forms of expression, but how are all of them with reasoning and logic? Could Locke's Second Treatise be translated into a creole language, could mathematical concepts be described using them?
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No. Next question.
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PAPIAMENTU REPRESENT!!!!!!
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I love this channel thank you guys!!
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This guess appear to be a little biased in giving a definite answer regarding a matter who still debated.
Fair enough to give her opinion on the subject but the way she said it sounds like the final word we need to take as gospel. -
In Haiti there is not much of a public school system. So most schools are private and therefore french and even English
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I really think it would be a good idea to redo this video or change the title
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I was excited when I saw the title but disappointed by the end because you didn't really explain why some people consider English to be a creole language what are the characteristics that it has in common with accepted creole languages
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It definitely is. English does not have its own roots. It’s only overrated because the nation that happens to be the strongest speaks it
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She's got a point! Jah, Mon!
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Pidgeon languages can sometimes be considered more sophisticated languages based on their specific grammar rules. Ebonics or AAE have distinct set of rules that traditional 'English' speaker don't recognize.
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So genuine question, is it just American English that's creole or all English? I definitely see American English but what about Europe?
